everything I say has nothing to do with my personal feelings imma give you Bible are  you Jewish we’re the real Jews we’re not Jewish the the suffix ish at the end of a word means  something like in terms like it like if I say meet me around five-ish yeah yeah you know I  get that so when they say they’re Jewish they’re letting you know they’re not the biblical Jews  they were established in 1948 they are frauds phonies Jesus Christ called them the devil [Music]  but after we’ve done this you’ll understand why we are doing it towards the end of today’s interview  on something nice with dinano thank you for being here with us let’s just do this I’m gonna ask you  to close your eyes so close your eyes imagine something I want to give you three things to  imagine and then I want you to describe down in the comments what you imagined in your brain  when I mentioned these words imagine a car what are you seeing what image are you seeing in your brain remember your  eyes are closed imagine a car what image are you seeing in your brain imagine a house put it into words what are you seeing now God imagine God what are you seeing in your brain  once again welcome to something nice with dinano write what you saw on the comments below be as descriptive as possible as we delve into today’s  podcast you will learn new things you will gain new understanding and I urge you to  carry on reading and finding out about these things let’s get to it this is an interview  that I’ve been looking forward to for the longest time I have the leaders of Israel United in Christ  Bishop Nathaniel and Deacon Malachi I would say introduce yourselves but just give us  a short introduction of who you are as a person will start with the bishop and then  we’ll come to you Deacon welcome to South Africa I’ve been watching your your videos  very interesting okay things that you talk about I’m hoping I want to delve into those things but  without wasting any time please introduce yourself you can choose to look at me during  the introduction okay or at the camera but during the interview you can just look at me all right  ambition Nathaniel of Israel United in Christ who was founded back in 2003.

Um many people  call us an organization however it is an organized Nation where unlike any other group you’ve ever  seen before we are gathering our people which have been scattered during the sub-Saharan slave trade  and the transatlantic slave trade our forgotten Brothers our forgotten sisters as Christ commanded  Us in Matthew 15 24. he said go unto the laws he said I am not sent but unto the lost sheep  of the House of Israel our people are the true Israelites and that’s what we teach and no other  group out there knows what we know go ahead Deacon what are you going to say Malachi I’m one of the  deacons of Israel United in Christ uh I’m just I’m an assistant to the bishop and I’m just be happy  I’m just happy to be come to come to South Africa and to spread the gospel you know I shouldn’t say  another group because it could be misunderstood there are other Israelites out there teaching  but I mean these other these churches out here all churches are false all religions are false  man-made including Israel United in Christ no of course not okay what are you are you we’re  a nation nation building now we have the name because you have to function in society they would  you ever have to have organization but Christ is coming back for the 12 tribes of Israel which our  people here in South Africa are part of they have not been taught that they’ve been worshiping the  devil all their lives the white so-called white man I’m sorry if I offend anyone but that is  the truth and we are here to liberate their souls and their minds through the teaching of Christ it  looks like offending seems to be something you do a lot of when I picked up on you one of the videos  that came up on YouTube no I’m not saying I think you’re offensive right but the algorithms and and  other people out there might be thinking right beep it’s fine we can do that we can always edit  I saw you supporting an American basketball player Kyrie Irving I think he plays for the  Brooklyn Nets or he used to play he used to play what was what was that support about and I think  it’s related to something that’s been happening in in South Africa recently what was that March  about or that protest the March or protest as you call it um was about him having the right to tweet  a video regarding the Israelites okay he just tweeted he’d even give his opinion he didn’t  see if he was four though he was against he just tweeted it and all hell broke loose on him you  know they he didn’t have the right to speak he couldn’t say this he couldn’t say that and it was  really trying to break the brother down in terms of what his personal beliefs were okay so that’s  what the March was about and we went out there Jewish people went to protest against him the  very same day the very same hour they saw us got scared and left so-called Jewish people yes okay  Caucasian people okay are you Jewish we’re the real Jews we’re not Jewish the the suffix ish at  the end of a word means something like in terms like it like if I say meet me around five-ish  yeah yeah you know I get that so when I say they’re Jewish they’re letting you know they’re  not the biblical Jews they were established in 1948 they are frauds phonies Jesus Christ  called them the devil how did that come about though because I’m very interested in that history  that whole nation of Israel that was established in 1948 can you give us a historical yes virtual  background on that state of Israel that is being led by Netanyahu recently yes yes been there came  out came back what is that all about the nation of Israel that was established in 1948.

Okay  when you examine history like around 1917 uh they established something called the Balfour  Declaration where they wanted a Homeland these people which were the Kazarian Empire then that’s  the term they they were the quezons that includes Ukraine Poland Russia that is the Ukraine that is  the Kazar Empire they converted to what’s called today Judaism being Jewish okay uh and that was  back during the 700s they had converted um they along with the Roman Catholic Church enslaved our  people in uh beginning 1441 they began they began to enslave us and colonize us from that point on  um from 1970 I mentioned that Belfort Balfour Declaration they needed a Homeland they started  World War One World War II after World War II the League of Nations allotted them the land of  Israel why because the true Israelites we’d been scattered already scattered throughout  the continent of Africa scattered throughout India scattered throughout Iran Iraq America  Canada South America the Caribbean we’ve been scattered they’ve destroyed our race our people  so now they were established now I’m going to show you so I’m going to read something to you  Revelation 2 9 because I said a statement okay I said this is going to be a serious Bible study I  hope you’ve got your Bibles I’ve got my Bible I made a statement I said Jesus Christ called  them the devil now some of you may be watching said oh he’s a racist racist no everything I say  has nothing to do with my personal feelings I’m Gonna Give You Bible now during the time of Jesus  Christ you had converts there Caucasian Romans who converted to Judaism such as Herod Agrippa  Bernice there were many people that had converted to Judaism they were Caucasian they were not the  real Jews though watch this Revelation 2 verse I’ll start at verse 8 because it’s talking to the  real Israelites in Smyrna Revelation 2 verse eight that’s the last chapter of the Bible that’s right  and unto the angel of the church in Smyrna right these things saved the first and the  last which was dead and is alive verse 9.

This is Christ speaking I Know Thy Works in Tribulation  and poverty but Thou Art Rich so he’s speaking to us we are impoverished we have gone through  tribulation we have many works you with me now win verse 9 okay okay and I know the blasphemy of them  would say they are Jews and are not but of the synagogue of Satan who is Christ speaking about  Herod Agrippa Bernice many of those Caucasians at that time now watch what they do in verse 10.

For  Christ continues fear none of those things which thou shall suffer behold the devil shall cast some  of you into prison who was casting our people into prison the people of Herod and the Roman Empire  what is Christ calling them the devil it says that you may be tried and you shall have tribulation  ten days be thou faithful unto death and I will give thee a Crown of Life all through the Bible  Jesus Christ a black man warns us they are Satan they are the devil but we’re not taught this in  any church on Earth every church will ignore this and go doesn’t mean that wait a minute that’s what  it says no it means the spiritual demons going to come down and throw you in jail a spiritual demon  comes from heaven and puts me in a jail cell who threw Peter in prison in the book of Acts  it was the white man Rome who cut off James head in Acts 12.

Herod did that but people cannot connect the dots why because we’ve been colonized by religion  the religions of our oppressor the religion of our colonizer the religion of our former slave master  Bishop I get it when you say Rome but when you take it further and say Caucasian I would  go further and also challenge you there’s no Caucasian in the Bible we’re going to get that’s  my understanding so I’m gonna get okay that’s lectured and and taught here so how do you get  to that point where you say this means Caucasian this devil that is spoken about in Revelation  means Caucasian okay watch this we’re getting deep even you know oh yes we’ll give y’all some  history that’s not been taught in South Africa we’re going to go to Genesis is it being taught  in the U.S oh yes we’re teaching it it’s only been there for 20 years in the United States yes where  else has it been oh well now it’s in India no no before 2003 where did this knowledge come from oh  America oh and we had Elders before us who passed okay okay toward us okay but there’s been a media  blackout on this truth okay why because it’s like you word you they say it’s so offensive to  everyone remember Christ said You shall be hated of all Nations when he said that he meant that  thing why do you think they crucified Christ and beheaded James was he they’re going I love you I  just love you were they doing that that doesn’t get your head cut off it your head gets cut off  when you start to teach where the Israelites God’s chosen people we’re going to rule and  dominate this world interestingly enough I’m just thinking of something like you’re talking someone  had mentioned that in most movies where Christ is shown he’s already seen and smiling but Christ  had his his moments of rage and he used to condemn a lot of things that’s the people were doing back  in the day and unfortunately in the media we don’t seem to see a lot of that happening in  these depictions of Christ yes so I think I get what you think when I’m thinking about  that thing I had heard earlier when they had came when Judas Iscariot got the soldiers to  come arrest Christ when you read John 19 it says Christ made all the those soldiers fall to the  ground boom letting them know he could kill them right there they show that no movie you’ll never  seen that see that depicted of Christ because in Luke 19 it says Christ was an austere man domineering he that’s how he was he a hard face he was he was really rough that’s how he was but he  also had a soft Cycles children came to him okay so he had but you never see that rough or still  inside of Christ in any movie you see you see hey can I get I can say the word homosexual right  I don’t know Google can you say can you say can I yeah yeah dude they portray him as an effeminate  I can say that word effeminate man Caucasian man which is not biblical yeah the Bible describes  Jesus Christ what his physical characteristics before we turn people off let’s go to that  description of Christ’s appearance in the Bible I think that’s where we should start because that’s  very important very good yeah so let’s start with that I’m gonna go to Revelation chapter one  I’m gonna reverse one then I’m gonna for time’s sake I’m gonna jump to the point okay so you  saying you’re reading from Revelation Revelation chapter when I read it the revelation of Jesus  Christ which God given to him to show unto his servant things which much shortly come to pass  and he said and and signified by his Angel unto his servant John verse 11.

Jump to verse 11 saying  I am Alpha and Omega the first and the last and what that said write it in a book I want to pause  it there see what he says what thou seeest write in a book what you are seeing right in the book  right now let’s jump down because because they are reading the King James version so it will  have these uh strange terms so I’ll just keep translating so that you get to understand what  it is but feel free to open your Bible at home and just follow along whatever version you choose but  they are reading from the King James version yes jump to verse 14.

Verse 14.

King James a Caucasian  man no his head and his hairs were white like whoa as white as snow so the first thing you want to  look at it says Christ had white wool hair when you which verse is this now verse 14 14 okay wool  is afro here let me say it again wool is afro hair it is not straight thin hair well if you look at  a sheep or a lamb that has wool it is like black people’s hair it is wool it is thick it is crispy  it is nappy okay we don’t his eyes his head in his hair were white like who as was that snow in  his eyes wears a flame of fire when it says his eyes as a flame of fire when you read Genesis  49 verse 12 it says Jesus Christ’s eyes Moses prophesied messiah’s eyes shall be read with wine  okay so that’s what it’s making reference to really okay so you say which which verses now  that you just made reference 49 verse 12.

Moses said regarding Messiah his eyes shall be read  with wine what does that mean meaning huh was he a drunkard no no when you read Matthew 11 19 for  example remember the Pharisees call Christ a glutton and a drunkard okay remember they  call him that a wine bibber okay let me get it because you you may not yeah so let’s let’s not  rush through it let’s educate each other all right because that’s that’s the main point of this this  this interview yes sir okay get Genesis 49 first I gave Matthew 11 19.

So show you I can’t even keep  up but for your benefit we’ll put the scriptures on screen so that you see and you can read along read it this is 49 verse 12 his eyes shall be read with wine and his teeth white with  milk right so they’re talking about the coming Messiah okay now I’m in Matthew 11 19 Christ  speaking the son of man talking about himself came eating and drinking and they say Behold  a man gluttonous and a wine bibber they call him a wine never okay so now when we go back  to Revelation and it makes reference to and his eyes shall be what they say his eyes shall  be wed Revelation Revelation uh 14. his eyes were as a female as a flame of fire right on  and his feet like unto fine brass do you know what color brass is yeah we had a lot  of breasts at home this is brass it’s like brown yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he’s  his feet and his feet onto fine breasts as if the burn and the furnace if I take this brown brass  and burn it it gets black yes so you mean we’re the only group on Earth that ever read this Ellen  G white Reddit Willem Miller Reddit Joseph Smith ready all these Christian leaders that established  the religions that our people follow read that and they’ve despised that and said no no we’re  not never teach the slaves this thank you why is a black Christ is it black oh yes that’s black  why the black Christ such a controversial issue and an offensive issue because in order to not  only for Caucasians even for black people yes in order to rule Us in order to dominate us they had  to give us their image because if they taught to Slaves you have a king and he looks like you and  he’s coming back what will we do we would unite we would Revolt they said you could never teach  them this never always give them slave religion that’s what you’ve got throughout South Africa  that’s what you got in America that’s what you got in Jamaica Haiti worldwide every religion is false was Christ a Jew yes he was a Jew all the Jews are black in the Bible is a Jew person an African  person from the continent of Africa yes from the because the land of Israel listen on I need  all your listeners listen to what I’m about to say yeah the land of Israel is Northeast Africa  I’m gonna say it again the land of Israel is Northeast Africa remember we walked from Egypt  to the land of Canaan we walked yeah when that’s why Christ came to hide in Egypt  right and he walked they walked his family walked they didn’t say huh no they didn’t see  it today you have to sail why do you have to sail today what did America do with Egypt and  Britain what did they do back in 1859 what did America do with yes what did they do in Egypt  they built the Suez Canal okay and they divided Egypt from Israel a huge Ravine and connecting the  Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea so now you can no longer walk so now over it made it easier to  say oh well on the other side of that water is the Middle East so now when you think of Christ or the  Jews you think either white people or Arabs you don’t think black people if it was connected you  would always they’re black but now they just they disconnected it you’re gonna see the Witchcraft  wait yes why did the slaves from Israel that way in Egypt in captivity in the Bible have to cross  the Red Sea if they could have walked in dry land when you look there there’s a pathway where Moses  took them they had to cross the Red Sea but there was a path to walk God didn’t lead them  that way he wanted to show his power he led them through the Red Sea okay that’s what he did at  least we’ve got that Clarity yes sir how is this message being received because it’s it for someone  who doesn’t know for someone who’s hearing it for the first time I’ve read this this verse in the  Bible the Revelation and I think it’s also found in Isaiah if I’m not mistaken you you correct me  because I think Daniel chapter 10 verse 5 and 6 it gives a description of Jesus oh is it yes  nothing from Isaiah okay then I’m wrong so Daniel maybe we can also look at the one from Daniel yes  then why is it an issue when we are told that Christ is a black African man I just if it is  I told you why people are white people offended number one and then the weak people amongst us  who are fearful they can never accept it okay like in like I’ll give you an example Deuteronomy 7 and  6.

Let me show you this is what not been taught to our people in South Africa okay or throughout  the world Deuteronomy chapter 7 and 7 verse 6.

 read that for that art and holy people unto the  Lord thy God the Lord that God has chosen thee to be a special people unto himself above all  people that are upon the face of the Earth do you hear what the Bible says we are a special people  we are a holy people above all people on the Earth it did not say equal to it did  not say beneath either it said Above So now imagine you teach that to the slaves  everyone now not only a white people mad our own people with we could never imagine that we are a  special people we want to be equal and not when we say equal to we mean beneath yeah there’s no  such thing as equality worldwide think about it in America they teach us multiculturalism you got  to learn about all nations but we learn primarily about White Society uh then uh Arab and Chinese  and when we talk about black people it’s way at the bottom it’s maybe for 30 minutes and that’s it  that’s that’s not equality when you look at economic system the resources are here in Africa  America with the IMF and the World Bank says okay yes you have the resources in South Africa you got  diamonds but your money’s garbage because we’re saying your money is nothing eight of your dollars  how many what is it 85 equals the one no it’s 1 to 19.

One to nineteen and nobody says wait a minute  gold we have to die the dark side we have everything here why is our money garbage in  yours is the top notch that’s the devil IMF World Bank they control everything okay look  I’m not concerned about how the West so-called Caucasian people are receiving that message I’m  sure they’re not comfortable with it but what are the rest of our people saying about this message  I hope people are waking up by the droves by the thousands of people are waking up this so they  say that Israel United in Christ is the largest Israelite congregation in the world and we are  and it’s growing it’s becoming a like I said this is not just a the word church means assembly this  is a nation being regathered being re-built because we were destroyed coding the Psalms  83 we were destroyed as a people okay when we when Israel was destroyed when you read Luke don’t get  Luke 21 verse 24 let me show you something I got to show you something okay I remember an interview  I had with a menu you say you’ve met Bishop Joshua maponga we’re also talking about this  black people being captive being moved in ships and boats to foreign lands he read the scripture  I think it was in Isaiah could be wrong maybe you might know it and I asked him how would you  then say these are black people he says there’s no other Nation or group of people they were moved in  boats to foreign land in captivity right it must be us so his thinking is already there yeah so I  think your meeting was Guided by the Holy Spirit yes it would be interesting to see what comes out  of that yes sir read that for me 21.

Now this is Jesus Christ speaking of what would happen to the  real black Jews that were that had remained in Israel at that time right and they shall fall  by the edge of the sword and shall be led away captive unto all nations in Jerusalem shall be  shutting down of the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled so Jesus Christ said  the real Jews would be led away captive into all nations and the Gentiles would take over Jerusalem  why would people read that in church and go oh those are the juices please please please they  can read read this one again read it again yeah yeah please I need to emphasize this one in this  shall fall by the edge of this sword and shall be led away captive into all nations in Jerusalem  shall be trotting down of the Gentiles until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled I want to read  it in a more understandable mine is both King James and new living’s translation what’s the  scripture from 21 24 Luke 21 Luke 21 24.

Oh man I haven’t done this in a while opening my Bible  Luke 21 24. there is more prayers say that God I haven’t opened my Bible no no no my church is a  Bible reading Church yeah I’m just one of those people that doesn’t make time to read the Bible  so it’s not a organizational thing it’s a personal Thing Luke 21 verse but I know what you’re saying  you’re right a lot of so-called Christian people go to church and Trust the minister the bishop the  pastor whoever to read what Christ says instead of them searching the scriptures which is one of the  things that Christ advised or the Bible advises us to do okay so it’s Luke 21 verse Luke 21 verse 24.

  I’m gonna have to put your volume down a bit every now and then because you’ve got a loud  voice of of a reader nothing wrong with that Luke 21 24 let me find it on my in my Bible so  the Decon just read from the King James version because that’s the version they go with maybe  you you’ll have to explain why you you prefer that one as I said born raised Adventist upset  accepted Christ as an Adventist they also speak for the King James even though they have their  own version now the clear word but that’s a story for another day 21 24 they will be brutally killed  by the sword or sent away as captives to all the nations of the world and Jerusalem will be  conquered and trampled down by the Gentiles until the age of the Gentiles comes to an end okay let’s  just give context oh wow the heading on the New Living Translation says Jesus foretells the future  the future of Jerusalem yeah right that’s what the people in Israel today they are not the Jews okay  I love this verse can we break it down and just slowly go through it and not rush through because  I think it’s very important okay okay so it says I’m reading from my translation okay all right  don’t be offended they will be brutally killed by the sword or sent away as captives to all  the nations of the world now when did this happen that 70 the year 70 A.D okay okay Rome which are  Caucasians destroyed the black Jews that were in the Northeast at Northeast Africa destroyed them  and they were taken to all the nations of the world those that got captured and caught they  took as slaves on ships to various Nations okay and Jerusalem will be conquered and trampled down  by the Gentiles until the age of okay let’s talk about it being trampled down and conquered by the  Gentiles when how did this happen it began in 70 A.D and Carries points 70 A.D Rome took it over  the people of Herod inherited it Herod herod’s people later on in history that’s what I was  talking about earlier became the khazar Empire okay that’s the people in Ukraine Poland Russia  that’s the kazarians that’s them um are those the people now that are occupying Jerusalem  yeah that’s their descendants yes that’s the descendants I hope I don’t break your train of  thought here but I I love hip-hop listen to a lot of hip-hop I think I’ve heard some hip-hop songs  in one of your videos I could be wrong did I I don’t know possibly okay we got some stuff anyway  uh the the thing about hip-hop I’ve there was a freestyle competition I was watching and this guy  was freestyling a black guy freestyling against a white guy oh that’s not us but no no it’s not you  yeah but the guy said you’re not Jewish you’re polish so I understand what you’re saying from  that thing yes okay which is quite interesting so it’s those people from these countries that  have now taken over Jerusalem yes is one of the language they speak yadish Yiddish okay so it’s all these different nations from Europe going to take over okay now let’s  carry on they’ve trampled down upon it and they’ve conquered it right until the age of  the Gentiles comes to an end where is that when is it coming the age of the Gentiles refers to  the Gentile nation’s ruling which includes America Europe uh Britain Germany the G7 G7  even G20 those are the age that’s the Gentile nation’s ruling our people are still captive  when Christ returns he’s going to decimate all these great Nations that we see today